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    I am going to buy a sytem in the next 6 months to replace my onkyo htib. My reciever is going to be the emotiva umc-1 with the xpa-5 or upa-7 amp?( any opions on this will be aprecciated as to which amp) i want to spend around 1750 for speakers. So here is my delima, I will use the system 70/30 movies to music and am lost if i should  get the 4t system which got good reviews, the 5b sytem with the 8d sub or a custom kinda mix of 6b's in front with the 5c, and 4bs for surrounds with the 8d sub. my living room is abou 22×15 with a large opening (12ft) to the dining room. im not sure if the mix and match would work or not but i figure the 6bs up front with the 5b might offer better sounds as alot of the sound comes from these and the 4bs dont carry to much of the load, i am not a audio genius and this is my first venture at a good system. would it sound good or would one of the matched sets be better and if so which for my room size and budget?

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    Gregory
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    Spending virtually the same amount for your AVR/Separates as you do your speakers, isn't the way I would go, personally.

     

    With a total budget of $3250 (as I'm estimating), I'd get something like an Onkyo 806, and going 5 or 6T for your setup.

     

    Don't get me wrong, the Emotiva stuff rocks, but you can go further, faster, with a strong mid-range AVR and stepping up your speaker choice.

     

    Just one man's opinion.

     

    Welcome!

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    Jason Hicks
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    [quote user="Aiden"]I am going to buy a sytem in the next 6 months to replace my onkyo htib. My reciever is going to be the emotiva umc-1 with the xpa-5 or upa-7 amp?( any opions on this will be aprecciated as to which amp) i want to spend around 1750 for speakers. So here is my delima, I will use the system 70/30 movies to music and am lost if i should  get the 4t system which got good reviews, the 5b sytem with the 8d sub or a custom kinda mix of 6b's in front with the 5c, and 4bs for surrounds with the 8d sub. my living room is abou 22×15 with a large opening (12ft) to the dining room. im not sure if the mix and match would work or not but i figure the 6bs up front with the 5b might offer better sounds as alot of the sound comes from these and the 4bs dont carry to much of the load, i am not a audio genius and this is my first venture at a good system. would it sound good or would one of the matched sets be better and if so which for my room size and budget?[/quote]

    Hello Aiden and welcome to the forum,

    It's completely ridiculous!

    Just kidding!  I think you are on the right track, but for only 30% music I'm not sure that the 6Bs really make sense since that's what they excel at and in a fairly sizable room I don't think the 5Bs are going to be quite enough.  So I'd recommend the 4Ts up front, paired with the 5C.  For the surrounds the 4Bs should suffice provided they won't be much further than 4-6 feet from your sitting position.  The 8D should blow away your HTIB sub, but in a space of that size with a large opening I usually recommend going with the 10D, really it's a question of your preference for how much bass you like.  But a combo of 4Ts, 5c, 4Bs and an 8D hits your budget perfectly at $1759. 

    Hope that helps!

     

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    Scott
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    I am with PJ on this as well. I put a measly (!) 20% of my total investment towards the amp (Onkyo 805 @$600) and put the remaining towards the speakers (four 5B, 5C, 12D @$2400). Obviously, I kinda "overdid" the sub, but…..in reality….can you really overdo it?? I say NO!!!! Having the big sub makes up for the bass I am missing in the bookshelves (WAF, towers were not an option). I cannot believe how full the sound it. It bests any movie theater I have been in. Heck, even my wife likes it!

    Now I am not suggesting you have to do an 80/20 budget like I did, but a 50/50 ratio I don't think is the ticket. I think you will get more bang for the buck (pun intended) if you follow PJ's advice and put more toward your speaker investment.

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    I am in a similar quandry.  I was able to score a tv and receiver (Samsung 52b750 and Integra DTR 7.8) for approx. $2300 and looking to spend no more than $5000 for the whole system so thinking of two 6Bs for fronts, a 5C, four 6IW and a 8D or 10D for the sub.  I am going with bookshelves for the front because the tv will be mounted over the fireplace with built in bookshelves on the side…all wiring in wall.  I know I can get this system for about $2400 so it is in the ballpark.  Any other considerations I am not thinking of?

     Thanks,

    Brian

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    Jason Hicks
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    [quote user="aquaboogieb"]

    I am in a similar quandry.  I was able to score a tv and receiver (Samsung 52b750 and Integra DTR 7.8) for approx. $2300 and looking to spend no more than $5000 for the whole system so thinking of two 6Bs for fronts, a 5C, four 6IW and a 8D or 10D for the sub.  I am going with bookshelves for the front because the tv will be mounted over the fireplace with built in bookshelves on the side…all wiring in wall.  I know I can get this system for about $2400 so it is in the ballpark.  Any other considerations I am not thinking of?

     Thanks,

    Brian

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    Hello there, 

    Putting 6Bs in a cabinet doesn't always work out so well because they are pretty bass-y speaker with a fairly large back port.  If you put them in a cabinet a lot of times folks end up plugging the port to keep them from sounding muddy and then you lose out on a sizable amount of bass response. 

    If you can place them on stands then they'd definitely be driven well by your Integra.  If not, are towers completely out of the question?

    #2611

    I will see if maybe putting them on stands would work better.  Towers are not out of the question but similarly sized speakers in tower form seem to be quite a bit more money (though probably better performance as well). 

     Also, thinking of putting the center channel on a stand in the fireplace opening since we dont use the fireplace.  As long as I dont place it too far back should this sound okay?  It would put the speaker closer to ear level than having it mounted above the fireplace and below the wall mounted LCD.

     Thanks! Brian

    #2612

    Also, for our built-ins there will be cabinets (about 20" deep) with narrower bookshelves on top.  I was thinking of placing the 6Bs on the cabinets, giving them about 7 inches breathing room behind and a few inches on either side.  Still not enough to get the full impact of these speakers?

    Thanks, Brian

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    Bump bump.

    #2614

    Bump bump. 

    #2615

    Bump bump.  ???

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    Jason Hicks
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    Hello again Brian, 

    I'd say putting them into a 20" cabinet isn't really ideal, but if you want to give it a shot it could work reasonably well.  If it doesn't you can try plugging the ports or send them back under the 30 day trial. 

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