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Speaker wires

Last post 01-03-2009, 7:28 PM by JonL. 3 replies.
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  •  01-03-2009, 9:30 AM 9244

    Hmm [^o)] Speaker wires

    Hmm Hi everybody.  I just received my 2 5T's and 5C.  This is my first HT system and I have a couple of newb questions.  Is it advisable to tin the end of the speaker wires with solder before mounting the banana plugs?  Will it enhance the connection?  I'm going to be ordering 2 more 5T's or 6T's and a Bravus 10" sub, depending on what the 5T's sound like, for a 5.1 system.  Because of the room where it will be set up, I have to run both wires for the rear speakers along the same walls.  This will make the wire for the left rear speaker 10 to 12 feet longer than the right rear.  Should I match the lengths of the wires?  What about the lengths on the front speakers?  Thank you for your help.

     

    P.S.  Beautiful cherry finish on the speakers and quick delivery guys!  Last part of HT system I ordered and first part I received.

  •  01-03-2009, 1:15 PM 9245 in reply to 9244

    Re: Speaker wires

    So you had a couple of questions there and I will try to answer them as best as I can.

    1.  Should you put solder on the end of the wire before connecting to the banana plugs?  From my schooling and experience as an electrical engineer, you want to make sure that you provide the best connection with the least amount of resistance and also provide impedance matching on any transmission line.  While simply adding solder to the end of the wire may help as you might get more surface area contact to the banana plug, it does depend on how you solder it.  The best solution, which I'm not going to suggest in case you ruin your banana plugs and blame me :), is to solder the wire right onto the banana plug if that is possible in your case.  However, again, it all goes back to impedance matching again, which you will probably throw off slightly.  Impedance matching is the matching of impedances (or a resistance to the flow of electrical signal) so that there is no reflection back of any signals.  Think of sending water down a big 10" pipe only to get to the end where there is a 5" outlet.  Not all the water will get through and some will splash back into the oncoming flow and thus reduce the amount of water that gets out.  That's the simplest I can explain it and I hope you get the idea.

    2.   So you're also asking about matching speaker wire length.  Well, it depends.  On what?  Well, it depends on your receiver really.  Some of the new receivers these days have a self calibration feature that measures the distances from listener and thus calibrates when to send the signal through a speaker wire relative to the other speaker wires.  If you have one of these receivers, then you really don't need to worry about this.  Or perhaps it's not self-calibrating but allows for manual entry, then you can take care of it that way.  But again, from an electrical standpoint, you do want to have as relatively close as possible as far as speaker wire length so that all the signals get to the speakers at the same time and they are synchronized.  But, if you are within a few feet, you will not even notice the difference as electrical signals travel extremely fast.

    If I may give you one more suggestion, which I believe should be the most important, is to make sure you get a thicker high quality speaker wire.  The thicker the wire, the less resistance there is for the signals to pass through the wire and the less information you will lose to your speakers.  Speaker wire is sold in a unit called gauge or AWG.  The lower this number, the thicker or larger diameter of the wire.  I would suggest a 12AWG size wire to maximize the performance of your Aperion Audio speakers.  You can get really cheap but high quality speaker wire and HT stuff in general at

    www.monoprice.com

    They seem to sell this stuff cheaper because no manufacturer slaps their logo (i.e. Monster) on the packaging.

    I hope this helps and I hope you enjoy your speakers.

  •  01-03-2009, 5:42 PM 9247 in reply to 9245

    Re: Speaker wires

    Smile  Thank you for your help JonL!  I got the 5.1 wire kit when I ordered my speakers and that did include 12 AWG wire so it sounds like I'm set there.  I wasn't sure about soldering the banana plugs on but it sounds like that will probably give me the least resistance at the contact point.  I think the receiver I ordered (Onkyo TX-SR876 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver) does have the ability to auto-calibrate the speaker distances; but I wasn't sure if that would compensate for the different wire lengths.

      Three more days (Hopefully) and I can fire these babies up!  Big Smile

  •  01-03-2009, 7:28 PM 9252 in reply to 9247

    Re: Speaker wires

    Well, if that's the receiver you have, you should have no problems then.  I have the TX-SR875 which is the previous version of this receiver.  This receiver does indeed have an auto-calibration feature.  I would say to not worry about the soldering of the wires.  I really don't think you will notice it so much with soldering.  However, what you could try is to listen to just front speakers without solder, then with solder to see if there is a difference.  You can easily replace the banana plugs at monoprice.com for $2 a piece.

    By the way, you will love this receiver.  I've never spent so much on a receiver before but it was definitely worth it with all of the features it has.

     

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