Jason:

Ok I'll definitely change those crossover settings. If I move the 5T's and 5C down to 60 should I move the sub also down to 60 instead of 80hz? Also under the OSD from the 805 i can only set the speakers to 6 or 4 ohms instead of 8, is that a problem?

When you set a crossover in the Onkyo it will handle the sub and the fronts if they are set to small.  Set the sub to bypass.

Cheers

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Russ

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Hey Russ,

How do I set it to bypass? My options on the AVR are for the sub -> yes or no. If I choose yes then i have to set the crossover. Do you mean set the sub to bypass on the sub itself? I haven't played with any of the settings on the sub itself yet.  

Dan:

Good point! I remember you were having issue with your center channel as well. 

I am rather unfortunate becuase my AVR does not allow me to set seperate crossover frequencies for each channel.  Going down to 60 for your 5t's and 5c may also help.  Once I get my 805 I won't have that problem.

 Just an FYI...After calibration with an SPL meter my 5c is set 8db's higher than my 5b's.  That's a bit higher.  That's is why I recommend setting up according to SPL meter. You can do the adjustment again a month from now after break in.

 

Good Luck.

 

Strange.. My center channel is set to -3dbs and my fronts are set to +2dbs... and my center registers still a bit louder than the 5b's..  Well my receiver is set to 4 ohms.. I don't have a 6 ohm setting.. either 8 or 4.  That will probably have something to do with it.. 

 

To Jason:

I am not sure exactly how to set up the 8D but my S8 I have the crossover dial set to max so that the receiver handles it.  But if you have to set the 8D to 60hz then I would so you don't get an overlap of bass.

Jason:

Hey Russ,

How do I set it to bypass? My options on the AVR are for the sub -> yes or no. If I choose yes then i have to set the crossover. Do you mean set the sub to bypass on the sub itself? I haven't played with any of the settings on the sub itself yet.  

Yes on the sub itself.  You go into the mode you are using, hold the enter button down and it will go into setup.  It is all in the manual but I don't know if it says anything about bypass.  When you navigate to the crossover settings I believe you just keep going down until it says bypass.  The only way I found it was that the movie mode had it set that way by default so I started playing with it.  I had my music mode set for 150 so it was basically letting the AVR control it but bypass should completely bypass the onboard crossover which is good.

Cheers

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Russ

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Just to build upon Russ's good info. Bypassing the crossover on the Bravus 8D is the way to go if your AVR does crossover frequencies.  Here's kind of how it works.

 

Set your sub to bypass/defeat its onboard crossover. This allows the AVR to control what frequencies get sent to your Sub.

 

Your AVR sends frequencies below what its crossover it set to through the 8D. It does this for each channel

 

For Example

If you set your Front channel crossover on the AVR to 60HZ your AVR will send everything below 60HZ on the front channel to your 8D

If you set your Center Channel crossover on the AVR to 60Hz your AVR will send everything below 60HZ on the center channel  to your 8D

If you set your rear channel crossover on the AVR to 80HZ your AVR will send everything below 80HZ on the rear channels to your 8d

 

So you can see that defeating the crossover on the sub and using the AVR's built in crossover makes bass management easier and eliminates another electrical component (the 8d's onboard crossover) that could potentially alter the audio signal in an unfavorable manner.

 

Getting your crossover frequencies setup, calibrating your sub and speaker levels via the SPL and AVR create a tighter more seemless integration in your system.  You will get a much more transparent sound where no-one speaker dominates the system. One in which your speakers disappear and you get the infamous bubble of sound J

 

To get it properly calibrated means going beyond plugging speaker wire in and turning on the power.  You need to fine tune it too!  The good news is you have the right tools.

Thanks for all your help guys. It was just a calibration issue. I used the SPL meter and WOW...the audussy setup was WAY off. Now that I have them all calibrated it sounds incredible. I still need to work on a sub's bass a bit to boost its power so its used, but other than that...it sounds great. It seems kinda silly to use the receiver's setup since the spl meter is both so much more accurate and efficient. 

For the most part I believe auto calibration applications built into AVR's are worthless unless one is completely incapable of learning how to setup a few settings on their AVR manually.  I ran Audyssey on my Aperions and the results were just painfully nasty..sounded like I was in batmans batcave.  Lots of echos.

 

I can't even get my audyssey to work without having 7 speakers hooked up, always get a speaker detection error even though I have my AVR setup with Back Surrounds turned off.

Glad to hear you figured it out.