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New to forums - looking for system recommendations

Last post 02-23-2009, 7:21 PM by mjwarburton. 3 replies.
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  •  02-22-2009, 7:03 PM 9969

    New to forums - looking for system recommendations

    I am new to the site, have been researching extensively online for the past few weeks and this site is great, love the forums.  What I am looking to do is set up my first 5.1 system.  I have two room options for the location of this system (more on that in a sec), and its use would be for about a 60/40 split between movies/music.  I had originally started out hoping to audition PSB speakers, mainly the Alpha and Image lines.  However, the only PSB dealer within 40 miles of me who actually had Alphas or Images on the floor to audition was completely clueless, and I was only able to briefly sample some Image B15 monitors.  Frustration with the limited expertise of these dealers combined with the fact that I don't really want to take the time to drive up to 40 miles to sample their speakers has led me to Aperion.  For someone in my situation with limited knowledgable dealers nearby and limited inventory to audition, Aperion's 30-day in home trial deal seems too good to pass up.

    My first decision has to do with which room to put the speakers in.  I have the main upstairs living room, which is about 14'(width)x12'(depth) (and opens up to a dining room on one side), and a small downstairs den, which is about 12'(width)x9.5'(depth) (and also opens up a little bit on one side).   The main living room will be the first place the system goes, but fears of the system possibly being too loud and disturbing to our upstairs neighbor (I really like to crank my tunes and often like to listen late into the night) is making me want to keep the smaller basement den as a reserve location (it is almost 100% isolated from the neighbors). 

    Now, I have decided already that my rears will be 4Bs and the sub will be the Bravus 8D.  Also the fronts must be towers, for the wider range when listening to two-channel music.  I am torn between the 4T/4C and the 5T/5C combo up front, and would even be open to a 5T/4C combo, but I am not sure how that would work, and if the fronts/centers all need to be from the same class to avoid one drowning out the other.  By the way, I am planning on driving everything with an Onkyo 706.  So what do you guys think?  Here are some of the questions I am looking to answer...

    -Is the 5T/5C/Onkyo 706 combo going to be overkill in either of these room sizes?  Will the 706 be able to drive the 5's up front without breaking a sweat?

    -Are the 4Ts tall enough to properly disperse the mid and high frequencies?

    -Can I easily mix and match towers and centers from the 4 and 5 classes (i.e. 4T w/ 5C or 5T w/ 4C) without any issues?

    Budget-wise I am looking to spend not much more than $2000 on the entire system.  I have found a great deal on an Onkyo 706 at a different site that would put me in at just under $2k if I bought the Intimus 4D hybrid system, and obviously over $2k by a few hundred if I chose to go with the 5T/5Cs.  I would prefer to save money, but would also like to avoid buying too small and having to upgrade in a few years.  I want these speakers to last me a long time.

    Thanks in advance for all you input, and hope to be setting up my ideal system in a few weeks.
  •  02-23-2009, 5:02 PM 9989 in reply to 9969

    Re: New to forums - looking for system recommendations

    Marco, welcome to the forum.  I have the 4Ts/4C combination.  With my Denon 3808, I can crank them up to more sound that I can handle.  The 4Ts are an amazing pair of towers and you can trade up to the 5Ts with no penalty for a year.  I have heard many comments that the 4C is not enough with the 4Ts, and the 4T/5C is s popular combination.  I remember one of the gurus saying that the 4Cs were only designed for about 10 feet out.  Since you'll be watching so many movies, the center channel--which carries the dialog--will be important for you.

    If you get the 4Ts, you'll definitely want the Bravus 8D. I haven't gotten it yet, and while the 4Ts have presence in the lower regions of sound; in my opinion, they are not enough without a sub. (My wife, on the other hand, is quite happy with the 4Ts without the sub.  That is another problem that I have.)

    So, bottom line: I'd recommend 4Ts, 5C, the Bravus 8D and the 4B surrounds.  A side benefit is that the combination should fit your budget.  

    Aperion makes great speakers, I believe you'll be happy whichever way you go.  

     


    Mike Edwards
  •  02-23-2009, 6:55 PM 9994 in reply to 9989

    Re: New to forums - looking for system recommendations

    Thanks for the info, Villa.  I will definitely be getting the 8D sub, no matter which tower I end up choosing.  My current setup has the couch at just about 10 feet away from the TV, so I guess that distance is right on the edge of the 4C's upper performance limit?  I may just spring for the 5C right from the start, I feel like it will be worth it in the long run if I move to a larger room.

    I won't be driving my setup with quite as much gusto as the Denon 3808 can muster; I'm probably going to be deciding between and Onkyo 606 or 706, or possibly a used or refurbished 805 (or even a new one if I can find a good deal somewhere).  How do you think a less powerful amp will perform in this setup?  I am mainly concerned with how the soundstage will be affected when listening to two-channel music.  I had read somewhere that the difference between 100 and 130 watts is minimal, and that it's the power supply that truly makes an audible difference in the sound.  Can anyone elaborate?

  •  02-23-2009, 7:21 PM 9995 in reply to 9994

    Re: New to forums - looking for system recommendations

    I would definitely shoot for the used/refurbished 805 out of the three that you mention. The power supply in the 805 all around better than the previous two. Not that the other ones are bad or anything. The 805 would power the 4t,5c,4b rather easily IMHO. Onkyo with Aperions sound great. I have the 875 and love it.
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