Getting Your System Connected

No sound from Bravus 10D

gmoshe27 — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:26:19 GMT

I recently purchased a Bravus 10D to connect to my Yamaha RX-V569 receiver. I have an exclusively aperion setup with 532 bookshelves, 533-vac and the new 4bp bipole surrounds. The problem that I'm running into is that my sub is not behaving well with the system. When I first set it up it took over an hour to coax it to play anything from the receiver. The second time I went to run it I had to go through the receiver to play with it again. Just today I turned it on to use it and I am not getting any output.

I checked that the rca cable is connected to the LFE input of the sub and the LFE output of the receiver. I had a few succesful and fun runs with the subwoofer but if it does not seem to hold state (as in: if I turn it back on it will not output). I do not change the receiver settings in-between usage.

Findings:

- If the sub is set to "auto" the receiver/sub will not output anything even if an LFE signal is present in the audio stream

- If the sub is set to "on" the receiver/sub may output a signal, but that takes some fiddling with settings in the receiver to get the sub to be recognized

- Coaxing the receiver means: Turning speakers A and B on/off, switching the lfe output to sub/fronts/sub+fronts and back to sub, sneezing...

I'm not really sure if this is a receiver issue or if it is the sub acting up. When I increase the volume on the sub I hear the impulse pressure. However I have increased the volume on the sub a few times and heard nothing. Any thoughts, comments? I'd like to know if anyone has the same receiver setup to the most recent aperion subs. Either way, I'm a little frustrated and considering a return.

Gad

Intimus S10 Subwoofer Volume Level

jhardymon — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:40:16 GMT

Hi. I'm relatively a newbie to the home theater system world. I'm setting up my Intimus S10 subwoofer for the first time (I purchased it from someone who recently lost their job). My receiver is a Pioneer Elite 92-TXH.

My problem is that the subwoofer only produces sound when the volume level is at its highest setting. I've done everything I can to make adjustments by tweaking both the subwoofer and receiver settings. Am I missing something? Is there some additional things I need to do to make this work? I tried to do some research on this on the internet and nothing seems to work. I'm wondering if something needs repaired vs being a setting issue.

Jeremy

4c Help

boody — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:01 GMT

Hi,

New to home audio and just recently purchased the 4C and 4Ts a couple weeks ago. I notice that the 4C is "quieter" than the 4Ts when playing movies. I've played around with the settings on my DVD player and have increased the loudness of the 4C over the towers by 2dcb but I still feel like dialogue from the center is quieter than the the other two.

My receiver is set to 6 channel discrete input, I don't have an onscreen display to change the dcb level of the speakers individually in that mode except for a turnable knob for the center's volume in the back (which doesn't add much volume).

Does anyone have suggestions?

Need Advice on Room Configuration

KevinRussell — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:54:22 GMT

Been reading about Aperion speakers on this site last couple of days and I think my long search for speakers is over. Going to pull the trigger on these speakers.

We have a 10x12 room with a little twist to it as you can see in below floorplans and pics. Trying to decide between two different packages - one with the 4T tower speakers and one with the 4B bookshelf speakers. The 4Bs may make more sense with my room config but I would really love to get the towers if possible. So, as you can see, if I went with the towers the LF tower is going to have to be in the corner behind the main door into the room. Thus, the door will have to be closed in order to watch movies. (Our primary entertainment mode is movies, tv, and xbox 360. Very little music.)

I've posted floorplans with 4Bs vs. 4T setup.

Here are pics of the actual front wall so you can see what it really looks like:

In addition, you can see that we have a floor to ceiling cabinet right there which may partially block the LF tower sound field as well. The floorplan shows the cabinet flush in the corner of the cutout but it's not in the pic. That would be corrected by just moving away from the door and flush with the cutout corner about a foot and a half or so.

I'm not as concerned about the rears. Planning on just putting those on stands in the location in the floorplans. However, is where I have the sub a good location?

Thanks for any help!!

Need more help with surround speakers.........

David — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:15:43 GMT

I am trying to set up a perfect home theater in the not so perfect room. My couch is up against the wall so where would be the best place to get the surround sound from, I was thinking about mounting them to the side of the couch and have them pointed towards the couch. If I knew how to post a picture on here I would that way it would explain what I have much better.

Onkyo 805 auto set up

Toby — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:22:58 GMT

Is that the best option with this unit?

adjusting the bass.........

David — Tue, 19 May 2009 23:55:54 GMT

I want to be able to feel the movie but I don't want to only hear the sub how do you adjust the sub? I have 5t's up front, 5C, 10d and 4B satellite.

Best surround setting to watch movies....

David — Tue, 19 May 2009 02:32:47 GMT

What is everyone's favorite setting to watch movies? I have a Onkyo 607.

Made some adjustments......

David — Mon, 18 May 2009 23:45:25 GMT

I changed the 5T's and 5C to 60, the sub at 80 and the surrounds at 100 and I put the sub volume at +2. What else do I need to adjust to be able to feel the bass. It sounds pretty darn good now but I know I still don't have something right. I am forever grateful I did not waste my $2,000 on a set of BOSE. My system as it is right now will blow the 2 grand bose system away but I know it has even more sound in it if I was an audio guru to get my sub set right. I wish I knew someone.

Surround height?

Tom LeTourneau — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:09:31 GMT

Hi Folks...

I noticed in the specs that the stand for the 5B speakers is 29 inches high. One of the reviewers on the 5B page commented that this was the "perfect height." Question is, do you think he or she means for front left and right speakers... or for surround speakers?

Honestly, this would be ear height sitting in my "lazy boy" chairs , and not a bit higher. I always believed that surrounds should be a few inches above ear height, but if not, a nice cherry-stained plant stand (mission style) to match my furniture would be more esthetic :)

Secondly, I think I'll find it difficult to keep these speakers (5Bs) a "foot away" from walls, furniture, etc. as the Aperion folks recommend in one of the site's setup recommendation pages. Any thoughts about this issue? Keep in mind they would function as surrounds, not fronts.

As always, thanks! I've bought my 5C and 10D is on the way. So far, so good! I'm glad I discovered Aperion.

Tom

Wall mounting 5Bs

bill1348 — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:16:14 GMT

Hey, just wondering if there would be any downside to wall mounting my 5Bs with the BT77 mounts opposed to putting them on stands. I just wasn't sure since they're rear ported. Also what results would I get if they were mounted in the corner vs 2-3 feet away from the side walls?

Thanks.

Edit: forgot to mention, these are my front speakers

Help with 6 or 8 ohms setting

caminalo_621 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:02:03 GMT

I have a Pioneer VSX-91TXH receiver and my front speakers are the 633 towers which are rated @ 6 ohms. My center channel is the 533 which is rated @ 8 ohms. I,m still undecided for my surrond sounds. Clearly the 534 dipole/bipole is rated @ 12 ohms so that is out of the question. I'm aware of the other choices for surrond sound which are rated @ 8 ohms....How do I set up my receiver? . My primary listening is music and movies are secondary, but I want to take advantage of a 5.1 setting.. If you need any other information please advise as I'm just a rookie in the audio/video world..Thank you for your time..

Wireless Transmitter Options for Rear Speakers

wxforecaster — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:50:34 GMT

I am relocating my HT setup to a location where it's not feasible to run speaker wire to the two rear speakers in a 5.1 setup.

Is anyone here using a wireless transmitter of sorts to eliminate the distance cabling from the receiver to the two rear speakers? I've come across products from Amphony and Rocketfish, but would like to hear a few testimonial reviews of these products, knowing the quality of Aperion 4B speakers.

Best and Happy Holidays,
Evan

intimus 5T and Rotel

frenchmon — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:06:42 GMT

HI...I have a Rotel RB 1080 amp and RC 1090 Pre amp and looking for a good speaker at a good price. I saw the Intimus 5T and wondered if this speaker would be a good match with the Rotel. I have not heard the speaker brand and looking help from those who may have simular setups with about the same power going to a book shelf. Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks.

frenchmon

Wiring Configuration for Bravus 12D and an old Receiver

bnettrouer — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:23:14 GMT

Just bought and set up a 12D Subwoofer. Fabulous piece of audio equipment and a beautiful piece of furniture. Although I have it up and running I have a problem with the wiring configuration.

I have an older Sony receiver, that I would like to get a few more months of use out of while I figure out what I’m going to upgrade to. As I have a Home Theatre System in another room, I will be using this for 2-channel music listening only. It has no pre-amp line out for a sub and uses the old style spring-loaded clips for wiring bindings. The Aperion Set Up and Configuration Help Page gives me two options for my set up.

A. I can combine the L and R main speaker wires with the L and R High Input wires from the sub. The combination of the two wires are too thick to fit in the bindings. So this option won’t work for me.

B. The other option is to hook up the main speaker wires to the Speaker A bindings and the Sub wires to the Speaker B bindings. This receiver allows me to run A and B together. For whatever reason, when I run A and B together, the volume is cut by more than half vs running Speaker A only. If I run the system at 50% volume (on the dial) I get about the same amount of sound as I get on Speaker A only with the dial set at 15% or 20%. I also seem to lose some clarity when on A and B together.

I hate to go out and spend money on new receiver right now just to replace it again in year when I'm ready to upgrade. Any ideas?

Receuver with Aperion Intimus 5B

Vijay Bhupathiraju — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:01:26 GMT

Guys,

Can anyone suggest a receiver for the Aperion Intimus 5B Harmony SD speaker sustem? I am new to Aperion and am clueless.

Raj

My Denon set up my 6 T's as large, should i change them to small?

gregrry — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:32:06 GMT

Hi there,

I used my Audyssey MultEQ XT to set up my system. Will it harm my 6 T's to be set up on large or should i manualy change them to small?

I have a Def. Tech. Super cube II as my sub and 2 Def Tech. BP2X as surrounds and a Canton carat series as a center.

Any thought's as to if i should change them back to small as the manual say's or is it ok to leave them as they are? They do sound a little heavy on the bass at times when i crank my Denon.

Thanks for all your thoughts

Greg

Crossover help

mr daley — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:43:41 GMT

I am trying to wrap my head around crossover settings and some help would be much appreciated. If I were to get the 5C, 4Ts as fronts and 4Bs as surrounds with the 8D for the sub, what would be an ideal crossover point for each speaker?

I read the instruction manual for each speaker, but they differ in their suggested crossover points. Some as low as 55hz while others as high as 100hz. For example, If I do set the 4Bs at 100hz and the 4Ts at 55hz, what would be the best setting for the subwoofer, and what would I be losing if I went with one or the other for the sub? Thanks in advance.

tight room, speaker placement, 5B/C and 10D

subatomic — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:40:41 GMT

4x 5B
1x 5C
1x 10D

Hi, my new speakers haven't arrived, but I'm already thinking of where to place them. Maybe the forumfolk here would like to help lend their wisdom? I'm mostly unsure about how to place the rears. But I could be all wrong about the other bits too, so let me know what you think...

So, I think the front's aren't too difficult, place the 5C center where the old one is now, mount a 5B on the right wall, put another 5B in the armoir shelf, trying to keep them more or less in the same line as each other so sounds pan nicely across all 3. I'm thinking I want to space the 5B's apart for a good stereo effect. When I place them on the mantle everything seems monophonic.

The back of the room is difficult for placing the 5B rear channels. As you can see I have some space constraints due to some bookshelves and an arcade cabinet that we have no other place for and can't get rid of.

The 10D subwoofer I was thinking could go to the left of the fireplace, to keep the wiring short and easy and so the bass is out in the open to avoid being muffled... It could also go on top the armoir (rattle hazard??), or between the two green couches in the corner with the bookcases... My wife is also keen on removing the fireplace (a good location for the sub? hahaha, ok let's not dwell on that info we may not be doing that...)

The couch along the rear wall can pull out 3-4 feet away from the wall to provide distance between the 5B rears and the listener...

Ideas?

My most pressing question is --> how to place the rears?
Secondarily, see anything else worth commenting on?

Room is 15 wide x 17 deep. The left side of the room (wall with the arcade) has a wide sliding glass door.

thanks...

Front of room:

(during listening, the right armoir door would be closed... while the left would be open to allow access to the stereo equipment and for the left/front 5B)

Back of room (air conditioner is the BACK):

I'll mainly use these for movies. But music should sound good too...

Surround Speaker Placement 5DB

Dash — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:16:24 GMT

I am trying to decide where to mount my 5DB surround speakers. As you can see int he picture, one wall presents a challenge for me. The 5DB does not fit in the space between the back wall and the window (sad face) so is my next best option is to mount it on the wall above the mantle where it is sitting currently or is the back wall the best choice? The side wall will place the speaker about 3 feet in front of my ear and 1 - 2 feet above my ear when sitting on the couch which is against the back wall. Any help and insight anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Speaker Stands for 5D Surrounds

lorenzo — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:28:45 GMT

I'm beginning to assemble 42" Raxxess speaker stands and have a question regarding filling them with sand for acoustical decoupling. The instructions present this as an option. Once I glue them together that option may no longer be practical. So should I do this? The stands are 100%compressed wood approx. 3/4" thick. The top of the stands supporting the speakers are flat and roughly the same size as the speaker's footprint. The cross section of the support is square with a channel running the length of the stand that is 3.5" along each side. So the channel is long and narrow. The stands will be on carpet, at least where I now reside.

Any thoughts?

B-Tech BT15 Center Mount for the 5C - mounting to drywall

subatomic — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:58:16 GMT

what do you think about mounting the BT15 center mount to drywall using "wall anchors", the kind of screw that has a housing that spreads out behind the drywall, thus holding it from behind....

The anchors are damn solid. My only worry is, would the 22lbs of the 5C bow out the drywall?

There's a stud directly in the middle of the two. I wish the B15 had a bar connecting the two, then i'd simply add a screw in the middle into the stud...

My other thought was to mount a piece of 1/4" thick plywood and mount the B15 mounts to that...

5DB Speaker Placement

jlfralick — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:12:24 GMT

I wanted to know where I should place these speakers. I have a 5.1 system (5T, 5C, 12D and 5DB) The two options are:

1. On the wall about 6 inches ahead of the listening position. Meaing the back edge of the speaker would be centered on the listening position,

2. On the SAME wall (not both speakers on the same wall but same wall as option #1) about 3 feet behind the listening position.

Also, if it matters, the side walls are about 6 feet from either side of the couch.

I plan on placing the speakers about 6' from the floor. Good height?

Thanks for your help!!

Bit of a buzz with my surround speakers

Justin — Wed, 14 May 2008 19:48:17 GMT

I bought my Aperion system about 6 or 7 months ago. If I remember correctly it was called the Cinema system (532LR, 422LR, S12 sub, 532VAC). Everything sounds great and I love the speakers, but over the past month or so I'm getting a buzz out of the 422s. It's not a constant buzz, in fact it's pretty random. Sometimes followed by a small 'pop' but usually it's not.

I'm an amateur (at best) at setting up speakers so I figure it's something I've done wrong with the wiring. Does anybody have any ideas on what might be causing this?

I have a couple of ideas what might be the problem, but maybe it's something totally different. My thoughts are:

1) The wires running to the speakers are too close together. I've run them basically on top of each other along the wall.

2) The wires running to the speakers are too long. About 9' in length.

3) Those missing screws were really important. When I was setting up the speakers I dropped and lost 2 of the mini-screws that connect the banana plugs to the wire, so each of the back speakers has 1 screw holding the plug in place/making a connection.

Could it be one of these things? Something else? Thanks so much for your help.

New System Problem - No Surround Sound

joetag — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:09:17 GMT

My Aperion's showed up yesterday and I got them hooked up this morning.

I have a Yamaha RX-V1800 AVR. Aperion supplied 5T's for the front, 5C for the center, 5B's for the surrounds and a Bravus 10D subwoofer.

After hooking everything up I ran the Yamaha auto-setup mostly to see how close it would get things. When it ran through the first time, it "saw" all the speakers except the surround right. The speaker wiring in my house is beyond weird.I have vaulted ceilings that go up to 16 feet; someone, a long time ago, ran speaker wire up there (18 gauge).

My first thought was I had the polarity reversed, so I switched it. Nope, not that. After scratching my head for awhile I just ran a new speaker wire across the floor back to that speaker and hooked it up. Now this is weird. Not only did the Yamaha not "see" the right surround it now can't see the left surround which I never touched.

I went into autosetup and told the Yamaha that there were 2 small surround speakers and then ran the test tones. Nothing.

The autosetup did a pretty good job with the fronts and the subwoofer. It set the fronts to small and got the distance dead-on. I used a meter and they were within 1 dB of each other. For some reason it thought the Bravus 10D was 1.5 feet away. I changed that and jacked up the bass a bit.

But, back to my problem...any ideas? It's a fairly new Yamaha (a few weeks old) and I was getting sound out of the back with the Bose Acoustimass I'm replacing.