Browninggold pretty much summed it up perfectly. Woulda said the same thing. Emotiva does have good processor if you want to check it out. Here's a link:     http://emotiva.com/umc1.shtm If I could do it over again, I would've done seperates, not that I'm not happy with my Onkyo 875, it's great, but seperates ...

Well, I see it like this. JMO--- You may not be able to tell a significant difference in a room of your size, especially if you get the 12D, The 5T's paired up with the 12D would definitely fill your room with room to spare. But the 6T's are awesome speakers ( never heard em, but were rated in top 10 of CNet's audiophile speakers, ...

Wish they woulda had these puppies when I ordered, maybe in the future some time.

Definitely jealous of the 12D. Wish I woulda pulled the trigger and gone for it instead of the 10D, not that that isn't making me happy, but there's always the need for bigger and better, or should I say the wanting.

^' Agree w/ Dan, PLII Movie for standard cable.

Stealth, I actually tried to talk my brother into the latter one you listed there, due to sub it has. It was at Walmart, but it wasn't plugged in and they didn't have an outlet near by to test it out. Nice to think were on the same line of thinking. I know it's not the best quality, but seems like you get a lot for 199.

Thanks for the suggestion Joetag. I've heard them and they do sound pretty great. Maybe I can talk him into a bigger budget, but doubtful.

Here there everyone, So here's the rundown. Looking to help out my little brother again for music. He currently has an ihome for listening to his ipod in his room. He is disappointed with it. He wants a new system to blast some tunes. He doesn't have a very big budget. Like 175-200 max. Looking for good bass response. Am open to all ...

^ Thought the same thing. I was thinking, "Dan musta had a bad day". Fooled me.

That's technology for you. It's a love hate relationship. Like I paid over 2300 for my television two and half years ago, and now you can get a similar one for around $999. Bought my 875, and now there is  PLIIz and hdmi 1.4. It's hard to decide when to upgrade. You just gotta realize nothing is future proof anymore.